Have you ever known of anyone that is in the same situation as we do? I am trying to look for some answers on the internet and I hope I found the perfect answer to this question. Obviously, this case of family relationship is unusual, so finding more about it is so interesting to me. I even came to a point of doing the math to calculate the DNA transfer percentage to fully explain the situation (excluding the deeper genetics regarding the chromosomes part and the other mutation probabilities haha!). Well, are you curious too about what do we call this? Let's know some history first and breakdown some factors..
Dimaano - Oyco boys |
The Story
We have known each other as cousins since birth and haven't yet checked any other details regarding it since it is not normal to so lol. Just recently while talking about random stuff with each other, a point was raised that given both our parents were siblings a question popped out that "Hey, what do specific relationships do we have then?" So after that, a lot of follow-up questions were formed and related situations brought up.
The Similarities
Both our side and theirs have 3 male siblings and had one miscarriage incident that was most likely males as well. Our ages are close enough to each other that each sibling has his match to the other. There were some instances also that we were mistakenly identified as the brother of our "cousins".
The Probabilities
Literally speaking, we have a relationship of less than brothers, but more than cousins. But what do we call that? Or what category does it belong to the closest if it has no specific relationship name? Let us bring in the probabilities:
1. Identical twins share the same DNA at 100%
2. Parents/Siblings share the same DNA at about 50%
3. Grandparents/Child, uncle/aunt, nephew/niece, and half-siblings share the same DNA at about 25%
4. 1st cousins share the same DNA at about 12.5%
[And so on..]
Where do we fit
Doing that math in advance, of course, we cannot surpass the 50% border and I am pretty sure we cannot go lower than the 12.5% minimum too. So does that mean we fall in the 25% automatically?
Then I stumbled on a term that they call "double first cousins" which they say our relationship falls into. To make it simpler for you, since half-siblings fall into the 25% bracket, double first cousins have higher chances of getting more similar DNA (chances of mutation) since the sources are more familiar. And since we can just approximate everything unless full examinations happen, yes, we fall to the same bracket.. The 25% DNA share.
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So as a little challenge to spice things up a bit after knowing more of ourselves, can you tell whose brother is whose in the photo?
Our fathers are brothers and our mothers are sisters
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April 02, 2019
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What a fascinating situation - double first cousins seems a bit of a let-down as a description. What about mixing up the words siblings and cousins. Couslings sounds cool! Can't tell which of you are brothers and which are cousins in the photo.
ReplyDeleteWhat a super cool idea! Couslings sounds great lol
DeleteThis is such an interesting story! It's always cool to find other family members. I cannot tell the brothers in the photo. Everyone does look similar!
ReplyDeleteYou really think that?
DeleteThat is so crazy in a good way! What a unique story and thanks for sharing :)
ReplyDeletekind of shocked too the first time we stumbled upon the idea.
DeleteReading the title felt like I was reading a riddle, haha! I've never heard of double first cousins, but that's very nice to know!
ReplyDeleteHappy to help! Hehe!
DeleteThis was such an intriguing post to read. Everyone looks super similar so it’s hard to tell who is who. I heard of double first cousin prior, but this is the first time I’m seeing a real life family that this applies to. Great post!
ReplyDeleteGreat read even to myself really.
DeleteWhat a unique and interesting situation all of you are in (I had to read some of it twice lol). I have to admit I'd never heard of the term "double first cousins" before reading this.
ReplyDeleteYep. So unusual. We actually have known this just recently too lol
DeleteNever heard of double first cousins. How interesting lol. Yeah. I can't tell who is a brother or cousin as I've seen cousins who look more alike than siblings.
ReplyDeleteTrue. Same here
DeleteThe two whose wearing same black shirt. They are much alike in their features and color.
ReplyDeleteYep a lot of people say the same.
DeleteThere was a lot of information I didn't know here! Crazy what you find out when you go digging into family history!
ReplyDeleteReally. I was like.. These are some info we are taking for granted.
DeleteThat’s quite an interesting post to read about double first cousins. Haven't hear it before.
ReplyDeleteWe are on the same post!
DeleteYou have a really interesting situation going on. Though I've known people whose parents were siblings, their later life wasn't so similar. I can't tell from the pictures who's whose brother & am not sure whether the t-shirt colors have been chosen to trick or not :)
ReplyDelete- Nandita
No tricks lol. Those were our shirts that day.
DeleteFascinating post! I never read about this specific situation before. You do all look very alike!
ReplyDeleteDebs
Glad I gave you a new info
DeleteYyyyyooooooo....I don't know if it is just me but I had an issue differentiating one son and one dad from another....you guys look so similar! About the relationship, I can surely call you brothers.
ReplyDeleteGreat to know and thanks bro
DeleteI can't tell whose brother is whose but just cause they all look really similar. Great story I need to find out how many cousins I have because I actually have no idea.
ReplyDeleteLOL!
Deletewhat an interesting situation. i don't have a lot of family, but who knows what kind of situations i don't even know about.
ReplyDeleteHaha but don't create a random situation though lol
DeleteWhat really matters is LOVE. You love each other. You have fun together. You share so many things and you seam to be pretty thankful for the relationships you have, no matter how you call it. Lucky boys to have each other!
ReplyDeleteAmen!
DeleteI normally refer people from my family as simply 'family' because proper titles are hard to memorize and often it's even harder for people around me (obviously nobody uses proper names). it was a very educational post to me! thanks!
ReplyDeleteMe too, and them too.
DeleteYou have each other. You love each other. You have fun together. Plus you're young healthy handsome boys. What really matter is LOVE. And you seam to have that in your relationship with your cousins. You have an amazing relationship with then. Nobody cares about how people call it. You re all blessed!
ReplyDeleteThank you! God bless too!
DeleteVery interesting! It's so neat to see how we are all linked. I'm a sucker for genealogy.
ReplyDeletesuper interesting eh?
DeleteThis seems like a unique situation and the first time i have come across something like this . It was too difficult to identify or tell whose son is whom .
ReplyDeleteIs it really that hard? hehe
DeleteYou totally confused me 😂 for a really long time I couldn't process what I just read. Your explanation makes sense.
ReplyDeleteDid it? It seems you are still confused lol
DeleteI never heard about first double cousins ! haha. but this was an interesting post to read :)
ReplyDeleteFor everybody actually.
DeleteHuh very interesting. Hard to tell who is who! Thanks for sharing!
ReplyDeletesure!
DeleteOh Wow!! I have a friend that is in same situation, but she never knew what to call her cousins. Now she has a name for it!
ReplyDeleteGlad to help
DeleteFamily trees always confuse me, ha! I am happy that I have a "simple" immediate family that I only have to focus on. My dad however has 11 brothers and sisters, thus I have a lot of extended family - and um, I don't know any of them, LOL!
ReplyDeleteExtended family is soo much fun to have!
DeleteWow, they all look so much alike :) Such a cool story too!
ReplyDeleteGlad you liked it.
DeleteThat is such a unique situation! I just found out that my business partner is actually having the same situation as yours LOL. I'm guessing that the two boys in black t-shirts are brothers, and they're cousins of the other two guys.. Am I right? :D ~ Ola @ WanderWithOla
ReplyDeleteWrong answer, hehe
DeleteThis very interesting and confusing haha double cousin you say. What a great theory.
ReplyDeleteThis is not a theory lol
DeleteVery informative and ineresting topic. I've looked the photo over carefully and I believe the 3 on the left are brothers and possibly they all are (?) am I right or wrong?
ReplyDeleteTry again. =)
DeleteThis is really interesting, my Dad has double first cousins as his Mum's sister married his Dad's brother! I'd never really thought about the DNA connection although I did realise it would be higher than just first cousins!
ReplyDeleteNew thing for me as well lol.
DeleteWhile not common, this has actually happened on both sides of my family. It is quite interesting! :)
ReplyDeleteWow! That is great!
Deletehow interesting is this! but then you also get the extreme opposite like mine when people are surprised to find out that we are all related as we all look so so different!
ReplyDeleteHaha! You can write about that too!
DeleteVery interesting story and crazy but in a good way. Family is fun I guess.
ReplyDeleteSame words actually got out from me too - I just did not wrote it down.
DeleteGreat post..made me think, but no matter what you are 1st cousins.
ReplyDeleteThis is the one we thought of the longest time.
DeleteSeems quite confusing to me with all the terms. Double cousins is a new one to me.
ReplyDeleteWell, from me too.
DeleteI think you look similar too
ReplyDeleteto whom? lol
DeleteThat is a very interesting story. I have often wondered about stories like this ... so interesting to hear how the DNA works in cases like this. I am going to guess the two in black shirts are brothers?? Hmmm, am I right? Thanks for sharing your story!
ReplyDeleteYou have to try again, hehe
DeleteAmazing information about the percentage of DNA we share with family members. I didn't know any of that.
ReplyDeleteWhat a great info right?!
DeleteVery interesting. I never heard of double cousins.
ReplyDeletesame goes for us.
DeleteI have never heard of double first cousins before. Interesting.
ReplyDeleteTruly.
DeleteI don't think I've ever heard of this kind of unusual familial relationship! How fascinating for you all! TO answer your question, it would appear the two in black shirts are brothers - but I'm guessing maybe not?
ReplyDeleteYou are right that you are incorrect lol
DeleteThat was smelly confusing. My first time to hear double first cousin. You mean both of your parents are siblings of your cousins both parents?
ReplyDeleteYes, that is the situation.
DeleteI know sisters who married brothers and I always wondered what their kiddos would be to each other. Such an interesting family dynamic!
ReplyDeleteYep. same situation here!
DeleteVery interesting pot. I am already picturing a movie from your story.
ReplyDeleteWow! Would be awesome haha!
DeleteThat's a difficult question. I met someone with a situation like yours. However, they have different genders so it's easier to guess. I think those wearing black shirts are siblings. Right?
ReplyDeleteIncorrect.
DeleteThis quite a fun story to read. You guys seem close.
ReplyDeleteNot very.. lol (joking!)
DeleteThat is so cool that you looked this up and you all investigated further as a family. You definitely do look alike and can be taken as brothers!
ReplyDeleteFun stuff eh?! Fun to share it here too!
DeleteThanks for all your efforts that you have put in this.
ReplyDeleteVery interesting info.
You are welcome!
DeleteWe have a large Indian family and we have lots of cousins and some of them are related to us in more than one way too! Love the double cousin concept!
ReplyDelete(y) Cool stuffs really!
DeleteI'd never heard of double cousins before. I've got to learn my family history more intimately to see if we have any.
ReplyDeleteLet me know if you found any interesting stuffs too then
DeleteThis is a very interesting story! I got confused at first but your post is well written that I understand everything by the end
ReplyDeleteGreat! Thanks!
DeleteThis thing never crossed my mind. So, detailed questions in finding answers.
ReplyDeleteWhat an interesting situation!
ReplyDeleteVery much really.
DeleteVery interesting look at double cousins. My guess is the two in toward the back of the photo that wearing black are brothers.
ReplyDeleteGuess again.
DeleteReading the title of the article hurts my little brain. I am not just good at relationships thing...
ReplyDeleteLOL
DeleteYou all look very similar in the last photo, you could all be brothers. I usually don't worry about family relations because my family is very small and I only have one sister, and no other siblings.
ReplyDeleteGreat for you then!
DeleteThis is so interesting. I am so curious now and it is too interesting to look at double first cousins. I am guessing that first two from the left are brothers. Tell me if I guessed right.
ReplyDeleteFirst photo or second photo? XD
DeleteCool! Never heard of double first cousins before! You should do one of those DNA tests and see how you guys match up. My dad bought the kits for me and my brothers, but I can't remember what the percentage of shared dna was.
ReplyDeleteLOL. I don't know if we will really be going up to that point though.
DeleteWow that's a really odd situation! My great grandparents did this as well.
ReplyDeleteCool then
DeleteUpon initially reading the title I thought "cousins, duh." but as I read on I was very impressed with thought you put in.
ReplyDeleteCool right?!
DeleteWell, this all seem very interesting. I'd like to know more especially since you guys are looking so damn hot!
ReplyDeleteI love genetics. What an interesting thing to think about. I think the three men in darker colored shirts are brothers -- cousin to the one in the orange shirt.
ReplyDeleteTry again.=)
DeleteThis makes me miss my family back home. We are so close to each other and we tend to share pretty much everything. Having your own family is quite an adjustment. We are bug family on my father side and I have lots of cousins that I haven't met yet.
ReplyDeleteGreat times you must have back then?
DeleteAt first, I thought that I am solving a riddle but then it turned out to be a unique and interesting story. Loved it! :)
ReplyDeleteCool.
DeleteYou are all great looking. And all of you looks like a brothers. You have a great family history and I really ca't who among you guys are cousins.
ReplyDeleteAre you sure? LOL
DeleteI am not surprised that there were instances you were mistakenly identified as the brother of your "cousins". You all look alike.
ReplyDeleteWell, we are used to our faces so we still are surprised when it happens lol
DeleteI'd never heard of double first cousins before! That is really cool, and awesome that you guys have that special bond.
ReplyDeleteYep. Nice to have them!
DeleteI'd never heard of double first cousins! You guys are lucky you have that special bond. Really fun story to read!
ReplyDeleteHehe.. thanks!
DeleteDNA is such a crazy thing and our genetics work their way out in so many different ways. How much we look alike, how tall we are, etc. And it makes families look so unique.
ReplyDeleteSO true.
DeleteWow that’s complicated. I thought our family was hard enough. I have four brothers, the first three of us are from the same parents, the next two two are twins are from my fathers second marriage, seventeen years younger then me.
ReplyDeleteconfused when the twins came lol
DeleteThat's a really interesting story! So complicated (who's family not haha), but interesting :)
ReplyDeleteAll are family though
DeleteThis is such a n interesting challenge..I guess the 2 boys wearing black and orange are brothers.
ReplyDeleteGuess again!
DeleteIt's very interesting to know how much DNA we share with our relatives.
ReplyDeleteNew thing to me also!
DeleteThis is fascinating! Havrn't heard such thing, this is a first!
ReplyDeleteGlad to introduce you to it.
DeleteThis is actually awesome! We are all genetically brothers and sisters and yet we don't agree like one.
ReplyDeleteOn some terms which is just normal. =)
DeleteI would venture to say that the far left and right are brothers whereas the two on the inside are also each other's brother.
ReplyDeleteWhich photo is this? The first or the second? lol
DeleteI think that labels don't always define every relationship properly and that's okay. We are humans and nothing is just black and white.
ReplyDeleteNothing serious in here though.. merely knowing some specific facts but all good hehe thank you for sharing your thoughts though!
DeleteWhat an interesting analysis I guess at the end most people would assume that you are first cousins.
ReplyDeleteHaha! Which is not exactly
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